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Eight Reales from the Spanish Treasure Fleets

 

S11. From the Spanish galleon Nuestra Senora de Atocha (lost 1622),

a rare RN (A) 1(622) eight reales struck at Cartagena

 

 

 with an early Mel Fisher certificate that mis-identifies the mint as Bogota. In 1986 the numismatists at Treasure Salvors did not realize that the RN issues without pomegranate came from Cartagena.

 

 

 

Available. Price on request.
 

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Please note: All of the rest of the 8 reales on this page are now sold

 


 

S2.  From the Capitana of the 1733 Fleet, EL RUBI,       SOLD 

this full-date 1731 F Mexico 8 reales.

With a very informative 2 page photo-certificate from Bill Wood.

 

 

Unfortunately, most of the silver cobs offered in the marketplace as 1733 Fleet are not! Because choice dated 1733 Fleet eight reales are both rare and expensive, sellers routinely offer Vliegenthart and Rooswijk coins of the same dates, with various confabulated certs, as 1733 Fleet. I strongly recommend that you do not trust the "might be" pedigree of any alleged 1733 Fleet silver cob unless it has indisputable documentation from the original salvors. Dealers certs are not enough in this case. When you wish to sell your "1733 Fleet" coin and no one will pay what an indisputable 1733 Fleet cob is worth, you will discover this.

 

Bill Wood was one of the last salvors to legitimately work the so-called "Coffins Patch" EL RUBI site in 1986 before the State of Florida turned the wrecksite into a State Park. This 1731 Mexican eight reales was one of the best coins he found. Bill has done a great job in preparing a two page photo-certificate for this coin, detailing both the coinage and the history of the 1733 Fleet. A few other dated 1733 Fleet reales have come into my hands from Bill and John McSherry over the last 20 years, and I can second the opinion that this is an exceptional piece. If you would like to see a scan of Bill's certificate, or if you'd like more information on the coinage of the 1733 Fleet, just contact me.

 

 

SOLD

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S4. From the  galleon NUESTRA SENORA DE LAS MARAVILLAS (lost 1656)

      an exceptional full date 1655 P Mexican eight reales     SOLD

 

 

Though quite a few salvors have briefly worked the site since 1972, there have been only been two authorized salvage efforts on the wreck of the Maravillas. Bob Marx discovered and worked the site with his Seafarers group in 1972-73, and then in 1989-1992 Humphreys and the Marex group conducted a very systematic salvage of the site. This exceptional well preserved (25.6 gms) Mexican eight comes from the Marx-era salvage. It sat proudly in a Florida collection for over 35 years, in the company of some equally remarkable 1715 Fleet silver, until recently re-appearing in the marketplace.

 

Not many well preserved and full date 1655 were recovered from the Maravillas. There is nothing of comparable quality in the coins Marx consigned to the December 1974 Schulman sale. Look at lots 210-247. A near twin to this 1655 does occur at lot 78 of the Christie's Marex sale of May 1992, but it is the only comparable coin in that sale. Notice that several coins in both sales show scrapes and scratches. Quite a few of the coins salvaged in 1970's in particular show scrapes and scratches. I asked about this once and was told it was the unavoidable result of having to dig them out of the Bahamian sand with trowels and shovels and other improvised excavation tools. The Seafarers salvage of the 1970's was not the well-financed, high-tech outing that Marex mounted 17 years later.

 

 

SOLD

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S5. A second 1655 Mexican eight reales from the MARAVILLAS,

this one pedigreed to Capt Humphreys' MAREX salvage of the wreck

with his 1991 Marex photo-certificate.   SOLD

 

 

 

SOLD

 

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S6. From the wreck of the VOC East Indiaman Vliegenthart,   SOLD

lost February 3, 1735 off the Zeeland coast of Holland,

this attractive full-date Mexican 1731/0 eight reales comes with the original Rex Cowan color cert (# 901769).

 

 Assayer F (Felipe Rivas Angulo) had the distinction of being the last assayer of silver cobs at Mexico City. This eight reales has everything you want in a Vliegenthart Mexican cob. Bold assayer and mint mark and full date---in this case, a scarce 1731/0 overdate. Nice cross with well struck lions and castles. Large 37 mm planchet, good weight at 25 gms, and t5he original Cowan color certificate.

 

 

 

SOLD.

 

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